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Post by mara on Jun 28, 2014 16:58:02 GMT -5
good question, sara79 - how many times have we seen the same scenario more or less. What about people ending up meeting in the same cafe or department store like there is only one in all of Seoul...lol...
btw, if anyone is missing our first TV Novel - Dear My Sister/Bokhui - it is on WMBC at 1 am - happened to be up late and changed channels and there she was...lol....it must have been on for a while now as she was already back trying to revive the winery.....
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Post by mara on Jun 30, 2014 21:24:29 GMT -5
Just watched Ep 16 - some episodes I think are very cute as this one - just a bunch of mistaken identities - other times I find it annoying.... Why is Suim such a snob when it comes to her parents' position - even though Hyeonu's mom has made nasty remarks about her family, I wouldn't think that she would go along with it and dis them....
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Post by poodlepal on Jul 1, 2014 7:18:36 GMT -5
I thought this episode showed good acting from Suim and Deulim and shed some light on their personalities. This is clearly not a perfect sister/evil sister show like "Love My Love." Both characters are flawed.
Suim is still clearly upset over the loss of that money and probably her loss of being an only child--I guess she would remember when baby Deulim showed up, she seems to be a few years younger than the rest of them, at least some have hypothesized that. Making it worse is that her mother mentions the loss of that money every five minutes, so I don't really blame Suim in her entirety. Deulim doesn't remember when the family was rich, they've always been cleaners since she's been there, plus she didn't want an expensive education as far as we know.
Anyway, even though it wasn't Suim's most unselfish moment, I sympathize with her. Her feelings were understandable. When you are subject to snotty little remarks from people who think they are from a higher social class than you are, sometimes you start to believe them a little bit.
I went through that at my old job. I live in a working class city (Bayonne NJ) and I had a teaching job out in the suburbs, and when I said where I was from, they were not always very nice. One person came out and said that there were people drunk and passed out in the streets in my town. I'm sure there are sometimes, as in any town that has bars or liquor stores, but it's not like you're tripping on them! Another said disparagingly that another teacher was "real Jersey City"--the city next to Bayonne where my family is originally from. So I feel for Suim, although she was wrong to yell at her dad.
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Post by mara on Jul 1, 2014 16:53:46 GMT -5
poodlepal, very interesting comments.....I was actually thinking about the three modern dramas I am watching now - this one, Emergency Couple (just finished) and Soybean Soup. All of them have the same imo issue of the rich vs poor family and how that impacts on marriages - it is, as has been said in some of the dramas not only historical ones, the family being married. I really think that is quite different from what I am used to here in the US....
I don't remember having an issue similar to yours when I was working....that seems quite odd to me....I guess I worked with many different types of people so comments like that weren't made...how horrible!
Yes, I can understand where Suim is coming from - she appears to be very intelligent - worked her way through university - seems to be well thought of as a lawyer and she still has to hear such crap from Hyeonu's mom. Personally I don't see what she sees in him anyway - I prefer the director who likes her....lol.....
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Post by sara79 on Jul 2, 2014 6:58:52 GMT -5
This drama is a pleasant change after we were mired in 1970s for two years over three TV novels. And the world has changed exponentially beyond recognition over those 40 years how we live and conduct our daily lives. However, the human emotions remain the same. More so in Korean dramas with the missing children, adoptive parents, confused relationships and God knows what else.
poodlepal, I am sorry to hear that you have to endure in supposedly "classless" society we live in. !!!!
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Post by mara on Jul 4, 2014 10:50:20 GMT -5
Yes I agree, sara79, this one is a welcome change from the TV Novels - I saw four of them..... It's nice to laugh again - although I hope it doesn't descend too often to the toilet level of High Kick....
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Post by poodlepal on Jul 5, 2014 8:49:23 GMT -5
I liked High Kick, gross and disgusting as it could be at times. One of the early "toilet" episodes was very funny!
We are now about finished with what would be Season 1 of an American drama. So far, it's pretty good--I'd renew it!
The one character who is above the rest is Taegyong. He's professional, nice to his parents, doesn't lie or withhold information for sometimes no apparent reason, and he seems to be a good theater company manager. Interesting that his father, a doctor, isn't insisting on a more "professional" job for him the way lawyer dad is. It's not that Dr. Dad Botox is very nice--he's flirting with another woman and hates dogs.
Remember Likable or Not? Remember the aunt character who was trying to break into show business but couldn't get a break until she covered her long, straight hair with an Annie wig and got a job as a frumpy aunt on an imaginary drama? I thought they were kidding, but no, they really do that. Compare Jeongja on the show to the opening sequence when she's out of character. It's like they can't get any attractive-but-not-beautiful middle aged characters on these shows. Everyone is either gorgeous or they're old enough to be grandparents.
Anyway, so far so good. I accidentally read one spoiler (don't want to, at least not yet) and I think a more serious subplot will arise. They can't go on for 150 episodes having mistaken identities. I hope it doesn't get too serious and depressing like "Jolly Widows" or some of those other ones that started light and got heavier.
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Post by dodgerman on Jul 5, 2014 14:42:10 GMT -5
I liked the first four weeks as well. It is enjoyable to watch and they have cell phones!!!
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Post by sara79 on Jul 7, 2014 8:52:42 GMT -5
After watching 3 period TV novel dramas, our expectations are lowered. Dodgerman sums it well when he says in the current drama " they have cell phones!!! "
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Post by mara on Jul 7, 2014 15:45:16 GMT -5
lol.....lowered expectations, got that right, sara79....and dodgerman, yes, cellphones but no short skirts so far for the most part. ;-)
poodlepal - I agree about Taegyeong - he seems to have many nice qualities - Hyeonu although definitely having issues with his 'father' does seem to be quite selfish - it's all about me as far as he is concerned. When Suim said something to him about her mom being ill and visiting, right away, he thought of an excuse whereas Taegyeong came by with a fruit basket....
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Post by poodlepal on Jul 9, 2014 13:54:03 GMT -5
Hmm-- not much to say lately, everything is going well. I cheated and watched the "___year later" episode to make sure it didn't have a weird, depressing or ambiguous ending. Unlike "Eunhui" and "First Love" I liked what I saw and will keep watching!
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Post by sara79 on Jul 10, 2014 9:30:39 GMT -5
Apart from the cell phones what I find is refreshing is the acting by the young actors... when compared to Eunhui and her chocolate boy friend. Well, VP did carry that show for quite some time. Like any Korean drama we have fillers in this drama who provide comic relief and stupidity. The teacher and twice divorced aunt. What is interesting is that we have seen all the senior actors in one drama or another and they fit the billing.
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Post by poodlepal on Jul 10, 2014 13:32:40 GMT -5
How old are the three main characters supposed to be and how do they know each other? I assume they met in college in a dorm, since they don't seem to know each other's siblings, aunts, etc.
It takes 4 years to finish law school, so I'd assume that Hy and Su are 26. I'd guess Tag and Investment Banker Boy are also roughly the same age. Deulim acts younger. I thought she was 18 or 19, but Suim would know she's adopted if she's 8 years older. My mother's friend adopted a baby at 7, and I knew what adoption was (although I didn't know about sex or premarital sex and teenage parents--I thought all adopted babies were orphans like Annie).
Did Mrs. Cleaner Mom stuff her hanbok for 9 months? Is Deulim older than she looks and acts? What was she doing for 5 or 6 years before she finally tried to get a job? Did they switch Deulim and Hyonu, the other person who seems to have a different parent? I am confused.
Still liking the show, though. It is a breath of fresh air, with no murders, TB, babies hit by cars offscreen, or child abuse.
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Post by mara on Jul 10, 2014 14:31:22 GMT -5
In Wednesday's episode no. 23 Hyeonu told Deulim that he and Taegyeong have know each other since high school. Other episodes mentioned the three of them in school together, possibly college.... In Korea until recently according to this en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_school_in_South_Korea students went directly from high school to law school. Remember in First Love the second son did that....he was studying for his bar exam very quickly after high school.... Another thing is in the Korean system a baby just born is one year old so if it is said that so and so is 16 - to us he/she would be 15..... All of which is to say that the three might be younger than we think.....;-) More earlier 20's than later.... As far as Deulim a couple of years younger - she made a remark about her not wanting to go to college anyway since her parents didn't have the money to send her - so possibly the age difference between her and Suim is closer to 4 years rather than 8.... At this point I can't say what Suim might have thought when Deulim appeared - maybe that will become more evident in a few episodes.... poodlepal, I'm not sure why you think Deulim and Hyeonu were switched even though they do seem to be the non-bio children at this point.....
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Post by sara79 on Jul 10, 2014 14:47:57 GMT -5
poodlepal, as we speak there is no switching of babies at birth.. I can not assure what the writers have in mind in future episodes. All the young characters are in their twenties and trying to find their way in this world. The three friends went to college together and then branched out into their respective fields but kept in touch with each other. While Deulim could be in her early twenties and younger than Suim by 5 years. If I recall Suim herself does not know that her younger sister was adopted. This could happen only if Suim was 5 years old or younger when Mr.Drycleaner dad brought home a baby girl. Deulim's family could not afford to send her to the college and therefore she was doing odd jobs while looking for a break in theater. Sound so Broadway. !!!
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